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PostSubject: '08   2007-04-30, 09:18

So is it just me, or shouldn't we all be scared that Hilary is going to get elected? Any democratic president would be a bad idea at this point but Hilary? Why don't I just move to Canada?

Now don't misunderstand, this isn't a liberal bashing thread. I'm even a little liberal myself on certain subjects, but to have a democratic congress and president would be a very bad thing.

The current main reason I say this is be cause of the middle east conflicts. They're allready trying to pull out the troops and with a democratic president it'll happen that must quicker.

I have no problem with gettin our boys back home, I do have a problem with what will happen if we just pick up and leave so suddenly and at such a critical time.

I'd like to hear others opinions on the Middle East conflicts and what you think should be done.

Just a note, don't yell and scream at me or try to change what I think, cause it probably won't happen. Uless of course if you can show me a viable, and plausible, argument to persuade me.

I do now and will always believe; freedom isn't free, one must fight for it.
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PostSubject: Re: '08   2007-04-30, 09:58

I dont want America to pull out because most of us in Britian have the view that we cant leave it in the fucked up state it is in and need to make a system that will help its people. If America pulls out our men will be slaughted by the newly formed terrorist cells that will be heading north o.o
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PostSubject: Re: '08   2007-04-30, 10:54

yeah but the americans would stop killing us, we might do better
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PostSubject: Re: '08   2007-04-30, 10:56

We do not have the numbers to keep the whole of Iraq safe and the Iraquie government seem to be working against us.
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PostSubject: Re: '08   2007-04-30, 11:06

It's not just Iraq thats the problem.
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PostSubject: Re: '08   2007-04-30, 11:18

dumbguy-Q- wrote:
It's not just Iraq thats the problem.
Really!, you dont say
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PostSubject: Re: '08   2007-04-30, 11:22

Poisening the whole of the Middle East would sort some things out _ ...just saying..
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PostSubject: Re: '08   2007-04-30, 11:35

If we just pick up and leave, cells all over will go nuts. There'll be nothing keeping them occupied or hindered. It'll give them even more leway to perform another major attack. I mean, the '72 Olympics, both World Trade Center attacks (people don't seem to remember the first one), countless assasinations, major bombings, genocide, the list keeps going on and on; and if we don't stop it, it'll just get worse and worse.

We have to make sure that these terrorist cells get extinguished, which will never happen completely but if we can minimalize them, it would be good.

The whole Middle East is filled with seperate conficts that are getting over lapped, which makes it a breeding ground for extremists who are then turned on Europe and America.

Another thing that makes it hard it the fact that they believe they're carrying out the will of god and their religion, when in reality they're focusing on one part of the Qur'an, the part about the holy wars and crusades. Of couse, this part was fairly extreme, they ignore the fact that Mohammed,in the rest of the Qur'an, teaches kindness and love, in a lot of the same ways Christianity has. Mohammed even recognized Jesus as someone of importance and believed that his god, and Jesuses god are one and the same, and he told his followrs to love not hate christians.
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PostSubject: Re: '08   2007-04-30, 12:03

I agree with a lot of your post but that;
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Mohammed even recognized Jesus as someone of importance and believed that his god, and Jesuses god are one and the same, and he told his followrs to love not hate christians.

isnt historically accurate. He was seen as the Christians and the Jews as a trouble maker and preached hatred against them because of it. In fact if you read the last books of the Qu'ran he says about how Jesus will come back and will kill all of the Christians that have not been killed by the muslims already. In fact the book of Sura preaches that Muslims will defeat the Jews in battle; Muslims and Christians battle unbelievers together, then Muslims will defeat all the Christians in battle before Allah returns and kills all non Muslim nations.
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PostSubject: Re: '08   2007-04-30, 12:10

...I would like to see everyone come home safely, but i'm not naive enough to think they will. I dont want us to just pack up and come home, because that would be probably the stupidest thing we could possibly do.

However, we should start to receed a little, you know? Stop sending more and more, and just start training those willing over there to stick up for their own country and run it themselves.

Granted, i really dont know a whole lot about this, but forcing our way in never works.

No matter what we do, some people will never change, so we should stop focusing on trying to make them see in our way, and try to let them handle it the way they want, without violence or oppression, or things that are hazardous to human development.

And now, after i really have no idea what i just said, i think i'll just click send and sit this one out unless something really catches my attention. ^.^' See y'all.

(Also, i dont really want Hilary as president either. Something...i dunno, she's weird. O.o)

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PostSubject: Re: '08   2007-05-11, 13:01

Eeeehhhh....Hilary.....noooo.....bad...
I'd like a democratic....candidate.....but...PLEASE, GOD, NOT HILARY!!! *gonk*
Not her....get Gore in there....yeah...
But I agree with not just leaving Iraq in the state it's in...It can't do anything on it's own, except kill people.
It'd turn into another Africa. (maybe)

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PostSubject: Re: '08   2007-05-11, 14:19

africa?

you fucking racist
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PostSubject: Re: '08   2007-05-11, 17:14

racist? You fucking African _
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PostSubject: Re: '08   2007-05-11, 17:23

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africa?

you fucking racist
How is that racist? All over Africa there have been genocides and civil wars for centuries. He is merely pointing out that the same thing will happen in the middle east (which it kind of allready has).

If you're going to be an ignorant troll who doesn't know what he's talking about, then maybe this isn't the site for you.


side note: Race has nothing to do with the color of someone's skin. It is determined by the structure of the skull, and there are three baisc types, Cacazaoid, Negroid, and Monglonoid, with variations due to generations between them.

The difference in skin color is due to levels of Melanin produced by the body, and the darker skinned people are that way because of where they migrated to on the planet. More Melanin means more prtection from the sun.
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PostSubject: Re: '08   2007-05-11, 20:45

wait wait wait, let me get this straight, the darker the skin, the more protection you get?

next ul be saying the moon and the sun are 2 different people and he doesnt circle us


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PostSubject: Re: '08   2007-05-11, 20:52

steve wrote:
wait wait wait, let me get this straight, the darker the skin, the more protection you get?
To an extent yes.
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PostSubject: Re: '08   2007-05-11, 21:12

*rolls eyes*

Even I knew that. And i dont care. XDD

And technically, the moon and the sun ARE two different people. Helios and Artemis. XDD

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PostSubject: Re: '08   2007-05-11, 21:20

Ying Fa wrote:
*rolls eyes*

Even I knew that. And i dont care. XDD

And technically, the moon and the sun ARE two different people. Helios and Artemis. XDD
What is he talking about?? The Moon and Sun? What does that have to do with anything?
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PostSubject: Re: '08   2007-05-11, 21:29

He was saying you know...er, like "yeah, melanin causes it and im the queen of england."

"...next you'll be saying the moon and the sun are two different people," he's saying next you'll be saying something equally outrageous and untrue.

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PostSubject: Re: '08   2007-05-11, 21:50

Ying Fa wrote:
He was saying you know...er, like "yeah, melanin causes it and im the queen of england."

"...next you'll be saying the moon and the sun are two different people," he's saying next you'll be saying something equally outrageous and untrue.
Ah, well, wether he believes me or not, it's true.
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PostSubject: Re: '08   2007-05-11, 21:53

im not doubting you. *smile*

Fluff.

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PostSubject: Re: '08   2007-05-12, 16:07

i wasnt saying it was untrue i was being sarcastic, ive known your little fact since the first time i asked my mum "why are some people black?"
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PostSubject: Re: '08   2007-05-12, 20:20

the way you worded it made it sound like you didnt believe him though.

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PostSubject: Re: '08   2007-05-17, 15:36

steve wrote:
africa?

you fucking racist

I wasn't talking about the type of people, I was talking about the structure of the country's economy.... _

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PostSubject: Re: '08   2007-05-17, 15:36

samthedragon wrote:
racist? You fucking African _

.....I fucking love you.

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